Alex

I probably wouldn't be a Blesta customer if it weren't for that promo, and I've since purchased Add-On company licenses, totaling me at well over what the full-price ($210, right?) license would cost me today. I've also purchased the ModuleGarden cPanel module for Blesta, which I assume helps to further grow the 3rd-party community around Blesta. Despite Blesta's current shortcomings or immaturity, we are making it work for several of our businesses. So, I must say that I'm a proponent of the $99 sale which happened, because for me it lowered the barrier of entry enough to justify giving something new a try.
 
I struggle to see the excessive "flipping" which most everyone here seems to be convinced of. I'm sure a case or two exist, but in general I have seen a lot of people selling a single license with minimal margins over $99. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't sell my copy for $99 either, I'd try to recoup a few extra bucks too! It seems to me that if people were serious about flipping licenses in such a manner that they would have purchased many licenses and be selling them en masse. Most of what I'm seeing is one guy with one license and a business which could have used Blesta. The evidence of my take on it goes further, though:
 
If Blesta were already in high-demand then we wouldn't be seeing so many licenses sit unsold, and these $99 buyers would be running out of licenses quickly. But, what we're seeing is a lot of people willing to undercut the Blesta direct price by ~$50 and still not selling the license. I bet if Paul published the Blesta sales over time we would see that licenses were selling dramatically faster during Beta at the $99 rate than they are now. I myself could justify dropping $99 without knowing much about what I'm getting, just for the off-chance that it gets me away from WHMCS. Like many others who felt the same way, I ended up with a Blesta license long before I ever used the software. I personally know several people whom purchased during that $99 period and who can't yet make Blesta work for them so they are just sitting on the license and keeping an eye on Blesta's progress. It's no surprise to me that others whom purchased at $99 and Blesta didn't work for them are selling their licenses now. It's also no surprise to me that these licenses are sitting unsold, as I think the hosting community (at least) has more awareness about the state of Blesta than it did during the Beta.
 
Any license "flippers" who purchased a lot of licenses with intent of resale only provided Blesta with more income during Beta. How is this any different than a reseller, really? They paid consumer rates for bulk at the time, betting on Blesta to become popular. It's almost like we should appreciate these guys, not belittle them. Now these guys are serving as Blesta salespeople out posting on forums, which can only help expand the active community. If solid demand for Blesta existed, their $99 licenses would be history by now.
 
From my perspective, we have a whole lot of license holders and potential customers waiting to see Blesta progress before they make any decisions. I suspect as we see 3.1, 3.2, more modules, etc. come to light, and the current 30% direct discount ends, these licenses will begin to dry up. I say this because buyers on the fence will feel more comfortable, and because less people will be inclined to sell their license.

I probably wouldn't be a Blesta customer if it weren't for that promo, and I've since purchased Add-On company licenses, totaling me at well over what the full-price ($210, right?) license would cost me today. I've also purchased the ModuleGarden cPanel module for Blesta, which I assume helps to further grow the 3rd-party community around Blesta. Despite Blesta's current shortcomings or immaturity, we are making it work for several of our businesses. So, I must say that I'm a proponent of the $99 sale which happened, because for me it lowered the barrier of entry enough to justify giving something new a try.
 
I struggle to see the excessive "flipping" which most everyone here seems to be convinced of. I'm sure a case or two exist, but in general I have seen a lot of people selling a single license with minimal margins over $99. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't sell my copy for $99 either, I'd try to recoup a few extra bucks too! It seems to me that if people were serious about flipping licenses in such a manner that they would have purchased many licenses and be selling them en masse. Most of what I'm seeing is one guy with one license and a business which could have used Blesta. The evidence of my take on it goes further, though:
 
If Blesta were already in high-demand then we wouldn't be seeing so many licenses sit unsold, and these $99 buyers would be running out of licenses quickly. But, what we're seeing is a lot of people willing to undercut the Blesta direct price by ~$50 and still not selling the license. I bet if Paul published the Blesta sales over time we would see that licenses were selling dramatically faster during Beta at the $99 rate than they are now. I myself could justify dropping $99 without knowing much about what I'm getting, just for the off-chance that it gets me away from WHMCS. Like many others who felt the same way, I ended up with a Blesta license long before I ever used the software. I personally know several people whom purchased during that $99 period and who can't yet make Blesta work for them so they are just sitting on the license and keeping an eye on Blesta's progress. It's no surprise to me that others whom purchased at $99 and Blesta didn't work for them are selling their licenses now. It's also no surprise to me that these licenses are sitting unsold, as I think the hosting community (at least) has more awareness about the state of Blesta than it did during the Beta.
 
Any license "flippers" who purchased a lot of licenses with intent of resale only provided Blesta with more income during Beta. How is this any different than a reseller, really? They paid consumer rates for bulk at the time, betting on Blesta to become popular. It's almost like we should appreciate these guys, not belittle them. Now these guys are serving as Blesta salespeople out posting on forums, which can only help expand the active community. If solid demand for Blesta existed, their $99 licenses would be history by now.
 
From my perspective, we have a whole lot of license holders and potential customers waiting to see Blesta progress before they make any decisions. I suspect as we see 3.1, 3.2, more modules, etc. come to light, and the current 30% direct discount ends, these licenses will begin to dry up. I say this because buyers on the fence will feel more comfortable, and because less people will be inclined to sell their license.

Fixed in CORE-858 for v3.0.6, which will be released soon.
 
This issue can cause the cron to fail to finish creating invoices, so you may want to pre-patch yourself.
 
Update /app/models/services.php and change:
$service->package_pricing = $this->getPackagePricing(); to:
$service->package_pricing = $this->getPackagePricing($service->pricing_id);  

Added as CORE-858 so we can take a look into this issue.

I think that's confirmation that this is a bug.

Actually, I have the impression that OpenVZ is better supported than KVM. However, both do work and both are supported by the module to the best of the API's ability.
 
GoGetSSL and TheSSLStore modules are coming soon as well.

Thank you mate, very kind of you  

Cheers!

Cheers!

Cheers!

Just a note on this. The reply-to address is always set to the email address defined for the department, and replies should go to the right place.
 
However, I have added a task, CORE-810, to use an email tag in the From Email field for the template. This will effectively set the from email to the support department email.

This is assigned to CORE-628 and is a blocker for 3.1. Packages will be drag-n-drop sortable within their groups. ie, under Packages > Groups, click a group, and drag-n-drop the packages within the expandable area.
 
A similar method for sorting configurable options will be in 3.1 as well.

Would be nice to see a dialog in the dashboard after a fresh install telling you to be sure to do cleanup tasks
 
Example:
- Delete install.php
- chmod certain files/folders if needed
- Setup cron jobs
- etc

Would just be nice to see a reminder of some post-install tasks. If someone would accidently leave the install.php file in place, someone might be able to mess everything up.

Maybe a little alert like the cron just mentioning if it isn't writeable mate? with a link to your docs

I find scrolling results incredibly annoying, especially when looking for things that I know are 10 pages away. I find it much easier to click a pagination link to go to page 10, and look around page 9/10/11 than scroll down and search. But of course, that's just me.
 
This idea is still pagination though. Your scrolling just acts as the event to fetch more results. It's the 90s with a twist.

It is a neat feature, though it annoys me in some cases. I wonder if this would be a good feature request for a poll.

I always like being able to choose the number of things to display. I hate pagination and would rather scroll. If I wanted to flip pages, I'll just get a book! LOL

I have a coupon I made for a friend which was for 50% off. I set him up as a client and created the service, applying the discount code. The service normally costs $29.99, and Blesta calculated 50% to $15. However, when the friend went to pay, the following errors came about:
https://api.stripe.com/v1/charges a:1:{s:5:"error";a:3:{s:4:"type";s:21:"invalid_request_error";s:7:"message";s:23:"Invalid integer: 1499.5";s:5:"param";s:6:"amount";}}I'm sort of glad it failed and didn't hit his bank for nearly $1500! 
Oddly, when he tried again, it worked! (It charged him $15 correctly, but not going to post the successful log since it contains personal information)
 
Here is the mail Blesta sent him regarding the failed transaction:
 

... That's really nitpicking. Can't we stick to facts instead of using minor technicalities out of context to invalidate one another? Blesta v3 lacks proven stability in that it has had a fair amount of bugs and it's only been out a short time with limited use/testing, but what is there has proven to be sufficiently stable for me. It is my opinion based on years of experience that the Blesta v3 code is of high-quality, including security, especially when compared to the competition. If that weren't true then I wouldn't be having this conversation with you in the first place.
 
I respectfully disagree. I have not the time to reiterate the shortcomings which have been reported and acknowledged by the developers. However, I will say that I do not think Blesta is yet as feature complete as it's competitors. It's also not yet as expensive, so that seems fair to me.
In terms of these judgements, how much experience do you have with the competing software packages? How many PHP/MySQL applications on this scale have you built? Myself, I've worked with ModernBill (years ago, before it got bought up) and I use HostBill, ClientExec, Ubersmith and WHMCS nearly daily while working with our resellers, clients and vendors. As for PHP/MySQL applications I've built on similar scale... dozens.
 
Try selling a dedicated server with Blesta, then try it with any of the aforementioned packages, without external modules for either, and then tell me if you think Blesta is more flexible.
 
I actually just worked out an agreement with Paul to purchase 3 more licenses, with the plan to add 7 more soon. That should display my long-term confidence in Blesta.

Our website is several years old! We're currently working on a complete redesign (same designer and coder) but you have to give us credit, that was quite nice 3 years ago! Excessive CSS effects were more acceptable at that time. The main banner image is actually an illustration of the view from our offices here in Jacksonville, Florida. That is the St. Johns River you see, looking towards the former Modis Building in Downtown Jacksonville, from the South side. You can see the Jacksonville Landing if you look closely. I'm sitting at my house just 5-10 minutes away from the office as I write this.
 
We're so overloaded with the usual eCommerce surge of the holidays right now though, and the started/looming launch of our hosting/domain/CDN/SSL brands, that we may not launch our new design until early 2014.

This really is an extremely naive perspective. Many of these bugs were observed well in advance but weren't fixed until a few releases down the line. Regardless, there is no evidence that any of the bugs fixed since the release of v3 were the result of a previous 3.0.x release, and I personally don't believe that to be the case. Beside the fact that such a thing would be unheard of, I think the Blesta team is comprised of solid developers. In fact, this is only evidence that the pace of development is increasing since the release of v3, which is a great sign. I actually think the team could do better, and if Cody/Tyson worked for me they would be getting pushed harder than I perceive them to be, but I think they are on a great path which far exceeds the competition. Like Paul, I too think you may come to reconsider your position in the not-so-distant future.

Alex like you I needed to jump from the sinking ship and was going to move to 2.5. V3 was a bonus and I fell in love with Blesta, its stable, secure and easy to use.
I've snapped up licenses to help people get a few dollars profit and I get a bargain.

I probably wouldn't be a Blesta customer if it weren't for that promo, and I've since purchased Add-On company licenses, totaling me at well over what the full-price ($210, right?) license would cost me today. I've also purchased the ModuleGarden cPanel module for Blesta, which I assume helps to further grow the 3rd-party community around Blesta. Despite Blesta's current shortcomings or immaturity, we are making it work for several of our businesses. So, I must say that I'm a proponent of the $99 sale which happened, because for me it lowered the barrier of entry enough to justify giving something new a try.
 
I struggle to see the excessive "flipping" which most everyone here seems to be convinced of. I'm sure a case or two exist, but in general I have seen a lot of people selling a single license with minimal margins over $99. If I were in their shoes, I wouldn't sell my copy for $99 either, I'd try to recoup a few extra bucks too! It seems to me that if people were serious about flipping licenses in such a manner that they would have purchased many licenses and be selling them en masse. Most of what I'm seeing is one guy with one license and a business which could have used Blesta. The evidence of my take on it goes further, though:
 
If Blesta were already in high-demand then we wouldn't be seeing so many licenses sit unsold, and these $99 buyers would be running out of licenses quickly. But, what we're seeing is a lot of people willing to undercut the Blesta direct price by ~$50 and still not selling the license. I bet if Paul published the Blesta sales over time we would see that licenses were selling dramatically faster during Beta at the $99 rate than they are now. I myself could justify dropping $99 without knowing much about what I'm getting, just for the off-chance that it gets me away from WHMCS. Like many others who felt the same way, I ended up with a Blesta license long before I ever used the software. I personally know several people whom purchased during that $99 period and who can't yet make Blesta work for them so they are just sitting on the license and keeping an eye on Blesta's progress. It's no surprise to me that others whom purchased at $99 and Blesta didn't work for them are selling their licenses now. It's also no surprise to me that these licenses are sitting unsold, as I think the hosting community (at least) has more awareness about the state of Blesta than it did during the Beta.
 
Any license "flippers" who purchased a lot of licenses with intent of resale only provided Blesta with more income during Beta. How is this any different than a reseller, really? They paid consumer rates for bulk at the time, betting on Blesta to become popular. It's almost like we should appreciate these guys, not belittle them. Now these guys are serving as Blesta salespeople out posting on forums, which can only help expand the active community. If solid demand for Blesta existed, their $99 licenses would be history by now.
 
From my perspective, we have a whole lot of license holders and potential customers waiting to see Blesta progress before they make any decisions. I suspect as we see 3.1, 3.2, more modules, etc. come to light, and the current 30% direct discount ends, these licenses will begin to dry up. I say this because buyers on the fence will feel more comfortable, and because less people will be inclined to sell their license.

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