cleverhost Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hello! I thought about tackling this myself, but now that I see some very talented developers in this forum, I think it would make much more sense to hire someone that really knows what they're doing. I'm looking for someone to build a Sift Science plugin for Blesta. Sift Science provides a fraud detection/prevention solution much like MaxMind, but much better and less expensive for smaller hosts. Sift Science's API appears to be very well documented here: https://siftscience.com/resources/tutorials/integration-guide.html Sift Science accounts are free up to 10,000 transactions per month, so you should be able to sign up and perform all the testing you need to do. I would also like to note that I intend to make this plugin available for sale afterwards for a nominal price, so keep that in mind as you produce your quote. I don't plan on getting rich off of it though. I have not made a final decision on how to distribute the plugin though, so if you have other ideas then that is something we can discuss in detail. When looking at the link I provided, I would like to see a few things built into the plugin myself, like: I would like to see guests/first-time customers and existing customers treated differently. It would be nice to bypass Sift Science entirely for existing customers ordering additional services (e.g. an existing hosting customer that orders a new domain 3 months later -- no need for Sift Science fraud check in this scenario). If existing customers can bypass the fraud check, it would also be helpful to have a toggle to turn this feature on/off so that Blesta users have additional flexibility. The integration page has a section called "For Better Integration" that discusses things like login/logout, account creation, and cart activity. I would like to see these all integrated. There must be a place in Blesta, likely on the order review screen in the admin area, where you can see the Sift Science fraud score. If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them privately or publicly. Quotes for development of the plugin can be sent to info@cleverhost.ca. Edited Jan 4, 2015 at 14:49 GMT-5 to clear up some things. NickP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 We recommend these guys: https://licensecart.com/billing/plugin/support_manager/knowledgebase/view/233/recommended-developers-for-blesta/3/ PauloV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blesta Addons Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 I would also like to note that I intend to make this plugin available for sale afterwards for a nominal price, so keep that in mind as you produce your quote. I don't plan on getting rich off of it though. why not the developper sell you and can sell to others ?!! for me i never accept coding module just for 1 persone , i prefert code it and release it for all the comunity rather than make it just for 1 people . share is not a concept in social network , it should also in our life/work . PauloV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverhost Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 @Licensecart Thank you, Michael. @naja7host I stated my intentions, not my final decision about how to make sure more Blesta customers can benefit from the plugin. I stated this intention so that anyone who wants to engage in a discussion with me will know this ahead of time, and can provide a quote accordingly. I don't yet know, for certain, what I'm going to do with the plugin once it's ready. Depending on the cost, I may very well decide to simply redistribute it freely, or send it to Blesta and ask them to look it over and consider including it in the core product, or (as mentioned previously) sell it for a nominal fee (probably between $5 and $10). I hope that clears things up for you. Ultimately, if I did decide to charge for it, it would be worth it for most hosts to move off of MaxMind and over to Sift Science. The 10,000 free transactions per month alone would save many hosts a tonne of money, so $5 would be worth it for the module. Does that make sense? Either way, I have not made a decision about how to go about distributing it to others. I do think it's important to remember that I'm offering to fund the development of this plugin. I don't think it's unreasonable to consider making some of that money back. Michael and ModulesBakery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'd be interested in the final product here. ModulesBakery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickP Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'd be interested in the final product here. Same, sounds like a really good product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Would probably be interested myself too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverhost Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Great to hear I'm not the only one that will benefit! I've reached out to all five developers Mike/Licensecart recommended. Hopefully I can reach an agreement with one of them and start development before the end of the month. Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blesta Addons Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hello all, i'm not agains your request or your attention to sell the plugin, is the developper accept your deal, so is not probleme at all , but i'm talking about myself , i never accept request to code plugins for just 1 person / 1 use , all the plugins that i have coded, i reserve the right to re-sell it again if someone resquest it from me , and i prohibit the owner to resell it . if i accept coding something for "30$--200$" is not a big deal that i give the owner the right to re-sell it without i can profit also ... is the same as blesta licence, youneed to use it in one instance licence, sinse all my plugins are opensource (till the moment i never encrypt the modules/plugins) . the second thing bout your plugin , is not easy (at the moment imposible to make it work without hacking the core files ) , so is not possible to make a powerfull plugin or benifict from all the feature of Sift Science in the plugin , any way if you or any one want to code it , they can use my approuch of stop forum spam check in the signup of new clients . PauloV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModulesBakery Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 the second thing bout your plugin , is not easy (at the moment imposible to make it work without hacking the core files ) , so is not possible to make a powerfull plugin or benifict from all the feature of Sift Science in the plugin , any way if you or any one want to code it , they can use my approuch of stop forum spam check in the signup of new clients . I see no problem of modifiying the core files (if needed), in fact, if the users of a certain software aren't going to modify the core files to make it fit with their needs (since there is no software that can fit all businesses) in my opinion there would be no point of having the source code open, yes you will have to replace the files every time you upgrade your blesta, but how often Blesta team releases an update? not often. Michael 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blesta Addons Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I see no problem of modifiying the core files (if needed), in fact, if the users of a certain software aren't going to modify the core files to make it fit with their needs (since there is no software that can fit all businesses) in my opinion there would be no point of having the source code open, yes you will have to replace the files every time you upgrade your blesta, but how often Blesta team releases an update? not often. if blesta can add more event, so like this developpment will be so easy , others has a lot of plugins/modules because they have so many hooks/events . no software can offer anything, but if the software is designed to accept more hooks/events , is designed to be more flexible and can accept any idea to be inegrated . hacking core files is not my hoppies PauloV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloV Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Hello cleverhost, I have reply to your PM request Regards, PV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleverhost Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Update on this, for anyone that's been following along. I received three quotes, and do have someone in mind that I will move forward with. I've been really busy working on other initiatives, plus setting aside the money needed to get this done. If anyone's willing to chip in to see this module get done sooner, you can PM me and we can talk it out. Otherwise it will probably still be a few months before I can get this moving forward, but rest assured it will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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