Domain Manager - We need your feedback on domains

[Abdy]

7 hours ago, PauloV said:

Hello everybody im back

First of, sorry to all for not updating all my modules/plugins/extensions/etc

Have been very buisy the last 2 years  family and work eheh

My first question is:

WTF, Blesta didnt release the new domain system????

We are ready to major change from whmcs to blesta, and also to update all our free modules/plugins/etc but now we are thinking twice  I hope to be rong

@Paul Any feedback?

P.S: @Blesta Addons Sorry for not testing or send anu replies

You're still alive.  

Welcome back.

[Blesta Addons]

9 hours ago, PauloV said:

Hello everybody im back

First of, sorry to all for not updating all my modules/plugins/extensions/etc

Have been very buisy the last 2 years  family and work eheh

My first question is:

WTF, Blesta didnt release the new domain system????

We are ready to major change from whmcs to blesta, and also to update all our free modules/plugins/etc but now we are thinking twice  I hope to be rong

@Paul Any feedback?

P.S: @Blesta Addons Sorry for not testing or send anu replies

Welcome Back again. i was certain that you are busy and blesta is not meeting yet your minimum requirement to switch !

[PauloV]

@to all blestars

Thanks, yes im alive but could not pay attention to blesta in the last 2 years

Im back and with full stamina eheh

Let me read all the updates tomorow and then I will start to help blesta comunity

Hope to change to blesta in the next months

 

[activa]

1 hour ago, PauloV said:

@to all blestars

Thanks, yes im alive but could not pay attention to blesta in the last 2 years

Im back and with full stamina eheh

Let me read all the updates tomorow and then I will start to help blesta comunity

Hope to change to blesta in the next months

 

To resume :

No multi prices for domains yet

No affiliate system yet

No full  EU invoicing system

No order form for hosting industry yet

No credit note yet

More modules released

More gateways released

A lot of enhacements in the core

B.A The only party that fight to release more addons as possible .

PauloV was a great lose for blesta, but it seem has returned again

[activa]

Any update in domains and multi pricing system ? Any ETA? It seem like this will released on the 4th Q in 2018 !!!!

[Joseph H]

7 hours ago, activa said:

Any update in domains and multi pricing system ? Any ETA? It seem like this will released on the 4th Q in 2018 !!!!

How do you know that? This thread is 2 years old now, we may have the same discussion next year.

[Blesta Addons]

9 hours ago, Joseph H said:

How do you know that? This thread is 2 years old now, we may have the same discussion next year.

i don't want to hear this, it hurt me psycho . os prefer listen soon even if it will be done in the next 10 years .

 

[activa]

On 03/04/2018 at 5:41 PM, Blesta Addons said:

i don't want to hear this, it hurt me psycho . os prefer listen soon even if it will be done in the next 10 years .

 

We are losing money and clients for this . We cant also do any promo for transfer or new registration just because we cant handle them in blesta .

[Blesta Addons]

On 05/04/2018 at 12:03 AM, activa said:

We are losing money and clients for this . We cant also do any promo for transfer or new registration just because we cant handle them in blesta .

Just be patient. maybe the future is very good

[bunny]

44 minutes ago, Blesta Addons said:

Just be patient. maybe the future is very good

really? optimist... 

[Blesta Addons]

18 hours ago, SiXwishlist said:

really? optimist... 

Yes, this is not only related to Blesta, but in all my life .

[rjainbwr]

how to add in my blesta ?

[Blesta Addons]

9 hours ago, rjainbwr said:

how to add in my blesta ?

To add what?

[rjainbwr]

9 hours ago, Blesta Addons said:

To add what?

i import whmcs to blesta but my domains not show so i think this domain manager module solve my problem.

so  i want to know about this

[rjainbwr]

6 hours ago, Nelsa said:

He migrated from WHMCS to blest and now asking why domains are not imported..that is how I understand him reading another topic he opened

i check your website and you also sell domains, can you solve my problem ?

[Blesta Addons]

The domains in blesta is totally different from whmxx . that depend wich module you are using in whmxx, and i believe you need to create package from every extension and setup them in blesta.

The domains in blesta still a big issue in blesta, we still waiting a solution and it appear is not a priority of blesta team.

[activa]

I request closing this thread. And open it when blesta staff are ready to work in domains .

[cloudmate]

@Paul What ever happen to this I recently switched to Blesta and this is a show stopper the currently solution is atrocious with 1000's of TLDs available now... 

[Tiny]

My wish list for domain checker ...

- A kind of generic module, having sufficient fields, configurable, so that a module would suit more than one registrar , somehow, enter the  NAME, API key, USERNAME, PASSWORD, so that ENom, logic boxes .. all, only would need a single module

- can update the prices with a slab, according to sellers pricing, as well as an option, to make settings READ ONLY

- Adding an email option (as I would need manually to buy certain TL's) and possible, with a file upload

- Just for the availability checking ....an option, to add additional DNS servers to check on. 

 

 

 

 

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[Blesta Addons]

This Project Still Alive !!!

[Tiny]

good to know

[WebhostingNZ.com]

2 hours ago, Blesta Addons said:

This Project Still Alive !!!

Do we have an ETA or should we assume a few more years?  I need to re-write a module but I've been holding off as the new domain system is 'coming' I don't want to write it to have to re-write it within the next year.

I know the EU stuff had to get pushed up the queue but is the domain rework in the next major release?

[Blesta Addons]

the domains logic in blesta should only have some tweaks to be fully functional, rather than create a whole system for that, if blesta can tweak the pricing model system to add two new fields (Renew, Transfer) and use them in case of renew or transfer update the whole registrar module to have a unique function names like updating nameservers, updating whois contact, registering child name servers, ect ...  if blesta can begin with this suggestion i think is totally accepted and can be improved by the time, WhmXX has this already with the same mechanism and they are doing well .

Reinventing a new system will lead to a serious problem and test and improvement that will be infinite . I hope we can see something in the near future and before 2019 because personally if no update comming in this subject i would be forced to move to other competitor  .

[WebhostingNZ.com]

 

On 8/23/2016 at 6:58 AM, Paul said:

Are domains services?

This is a question that has resulted in much debate internally. My personal thoughts are that domains are very unique and do not easily fit with services. I am proposing that domains be treated completely separately from services. This means there would be a separate table in the database that stores domains and information unique to domains like: Domain Name, Registrar, Status, Date Registered, Date Expires, Management Features Available, Expiration/Renewal Reminders, Last Sync Date, and whether to Auto Renew or not.

If domains are not services, they will not be listed with services. For the Staff area, I propose a new Domains widget on client profile pages. For the client area, I propose a new primary nav link called Domains. The Domain Manager would be responsible for renewing domains, and invoicing for them and services and domains would not appear on the same invoices, even if they are billed on the same day.

Question: What are your thoughts on domains not being considered services?

What about Registrar Modules?

The Domain Manager would implement its own module system, and existing registrar modules would not be compatible. The new registrar module system would be drop-in similar to the existing, but these would be enabled and configured under Domains > Registrars. New registrar modules would likely be more lightweight than current registrar modules as the plugin would implement the common features across registrars.

 

What about existing registrar modules?

Existing registrar modules would be incompatible with the Domain Manager plugin. However, services using current domain registrar modules will continue to work as they do now.

 

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Firstly I think Domains are a service, but if you wanted to go the route of making their own section with their own widget etc, would that be most of the 'leg work' done to be able to split off other sections if we wanted.  Say for example we sold Domains, webhosting and extras (IP address, Web Dev etc).  Would having domains in their own section allow further splitting so we could have 'Domains' 'Webhosting' 'Extras' instead of the current 'services' or proposed 'Domains' & 'Services'

 

41 minutes ago, Blesta Addons said:

the domains logic in blesta should only have some tweaks to be fully functional, rather than create a whole system for that, if blesta can tweak the pricing model system to add two new fields (Renew, Transfer) and use them in case of renew or transfer update the whole registrar module to have a unique function names like updating nameservers, updating whois contact, registering child name servers, ect ...  if blesta can begin with this suggestion i think is totally accepted and can be improved by the time, WhmXX has this already with the same mechanism and they are doing well .

Reinventing a new system will lead to a serious problem and test and improvement that will be infinite . I hope we can see something in the near future and before 2019 because personally if no update comming in this subject i would be forced to move to other competitor  .

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"Existing registrar modules would be incompatible with the Domain Manager plugin" The quote from the OP shows that they are planning on a whole new system not just tweaking what is currently offered hence wanting a heads up on the ETA before many hours of work are put into something that could be outdated shortly after completion.

We have waited for so long I personally would much prefer they build the system they have suggested not just tweak the current offering to add renew and transfer.

[Tiny]

In my experience, domains are a service, like hosting packages. However, most domains hold a lot short term settings due to promotions, buy/sell/renew/ protection. Leave alone the promotions.

How to make that technical feasible, is a matter, I am not expert enough.

Domains definitely need some kind of sync for pricing, availability, ownership. Being before a WHMCS user, I am quite disappointed, as most of the known common functionality is very limited to non-existing.

It's the weakest part so far and definitely requires  a lot of overhaul to be able to compete. They also demand  a better management section and  a better display of options when purchasing. From customers, I know, that they pay most attention for the name, the hosting package they see as secondary  where errors can be fixed, whilst in names, errors are depending DNS replication, can take days