Can I Schedule Mass Mailer

[mlsto]

Hello

It looks like when you use mass mailer it sends all emails one time which can get me blocked. Is there a way to use it say sending a few emails per minute.

Thank you

[Michael]

It sends about maximum of 30 every 5 minutes I believe with the cron job, so if the server goes down it knows where it was.

[Blesta Addons]

4 hours ago, Licensecart said:

It sends about maximum of 30 every 5 minutes I believe with the cron job, so if the server goes down it knows where it was.

from where you have get this info ?

4 hours ago, mlsto said:

Hello

It looks like when you use mass mailer it sends all emails one time which can get me blocked. Is there a way to use it say sending a few emails per minute.

Thank you

look this thread

 

[Michael]

20 minutes ago, Blesta Addons said:

from where you have get this info ?

look this thread

 

I could be wrong but I've never had issues when I've sent mails and it went up in 30's when I sent 287 due to my email issues.

[Blesta Addons]

17 minutes ago, Licensecart said:

I could be wrong but I've never had issues when I've sent mails and it went up in 30's when I sent 287 due to my email issues.

i just was asking if Blesta has introduced the feature, i have not yest tested the mass mailer in my big production server (about 5000 clients), but i can't use it until i'm sure the batch is added ( or maybe i will try to add the feature myself) . 287 emails is not a big number to be fair from blocking or spam filters . in blesta addons i test it without issue as the emails numbers sent is so small .

 

[Michael]

20 minutes ago, Blesta Addons said:

i just was asking if Blesta has introduced the feature, i have not yest tested the mass mailer in my big production server (about 5000 clients), but i can't use it until i'm sure the batch is added ( or maybe i will try to add the feature myself) . 287 emails is not a big number to be fair from blocking or spam filters . in blesta addons i test it without issue as the emails numbers sent is so small .

 

Ah the guys haven't changed it and I assume there's a way to check the job and cut it up:

/public_html/plugins/mass_mailer/Cron/Email.php

/**
     * Sends mass emails for all jobs
     */
    public function run()
    {
        // Retrieve all email jobs that are in progress or ready to run
        $jobs = $this->MassMailerJobs->getAll('email', ['pending', 'in_progress']);

        // Build the export
        foreach ($jobs as $job) {
            // The job must have an email to send, otherwise there is nothing
            // we can do but mark it complete
            if (!($email = $this->MassMailerEmails->getByJob($job->id))) {
                $this->completeJob($job->id);
                continue;
            }

            // Mark this job as now in progress
            if ($job->status === 'pending') {
                $this->MassMailerJobs->edit($job->id, ['status' => 'in_progress']);
            }

            // Send an email for each task in the job
            while (($task = $this->MassMailerTasks->getByJob($job->id))) {
                // Send the email
                $this->MassMailerEmails->send($task, $email);

                // Delete the task
                $this->MassMailerTasks->delete($task->id);
            }

            $this->completeJob($job->id);
        }
    }

 

[Blesta Addons]

26 minutes ago, Licensecart said:

Ah the guys haven't changed it and I assume there's a way to check the job and cut it up:

/public_html/plugins/mass_mailer/Cron/Email.php

/**
     * Sends mass emails for all jobs
     */
    public function run()
    {
        // Retrieve all email jobs that are in progress or ready to run
        $jobs = $this->MassMailerJobs->getAll('email', ['pending', 'in_progress']);

        // Build the export
        foreach ($jobs as $job) {
            // The job must have an email to send, otherwise there is nothing
            // we can do but mark it complete
            if (!($email = $this->MassMailerEmails->getByJob($job->id))) {
                $this->completeJob($job->id);
                continue;
            }

            // Mark this job as now in progress
            if ($job->status === 'pending') {
                $this->MassMailerJobs->edit($job->id, ['status' => 'in_progress']);
            }

            // Send an email for each task in the job
            while (($task = $this->MassMailerTasks->getByJob($job->id))) {
                // Send the email
                $this->MassMailerEmails->send($task, $email);

                // Delete the task
                $this->MassMailerTasks->delete($task->id);
            }

            $this->completeJob($job->id);
        }
    }

 

have not yet see the whole code,  i think a limit for the fetch function can do the trick.

[mlsto]

These are my limits, 30 a minute would get me blocked - 19 emails per minute using PHP and 9 emails a minute using SMTP.

[Paul]

9 emails a minute? If you have a large customer base, it could be impractical. I strongly suggest using something like Mailgun (which is free up to like 10k emails/month) as an SMTP server.

We are considering adding a rate limit option to the Mass Mailer, but I'm not sure if there is a feature request for it yet. https://requests.blesta.com

[mlsto]

Will request one, I think there should be an option to schedule how many per minute.

[mlsto]

Mailgun looks interesting, can it be integrated into Blesta?

Thank you

[Paul]

28 minutes ago, mlsto said:

Mailgun looks interesting, can it be integrated into Blesta?

Thank you

Yes, you just update with the SMTP credentials they provide under Settings > Company > Emails

[Michael]

29 minutes ago, mlsto said:

Mailgun looks interesting, can it be integrated into Blesta?

Thank you

not atm it probably can be, but you'd have to export from the mass mailer and then do it manually.

[mlsto]

Thanks all, appreciate very much.

[Blesta Addons]

On 11/04/2017 at 4:45 PM, Paul said:

9 emails a minute? If you have a large customer base, it could be impractical. I strongly suggest using something like Mailgun (which is free up to like 10k emails/month) as an SMTP server.

We are considering adding a rate limit option to the Mass Mailer, but I'm not sure if there is a feature request for it yet. https://requests.blesta.com

w have tested the mailer in a big client base, the mass mailer send email per email in on cron job . so if the server has limit it will blocked sure .so the rate limit per hour would be great .

[Paul]

1 hour ago, Blesta Addons said:

w have tested the mailer in a big client base, the mass mailer send email per email in on cron job . so if the server has limit it will blocked sure .so the rate limit per hour would be great .

How did the mass mailer work other than that for you? I'm assuming you didn't have any such rate limits on your mail server.

[Blesta Addons]

22 hours ago, Paul said:

How did the mass mailer work other than that for you? I'm assuming you didn't have any such rate limits on your mail server.

Normally they have a rate limit to sent for each batch (100, per hour or 30 min ect... ) then the cron is sending emails restricting the rate limit .

so the cron run every 5 min, then 60/5 = 12 , so we will divide 100/5 for each cron job . that mean every cronjob should only send 12 emails

[Blesta Addons]

today i tested the plugin with a big client base, and it was trigger for spam activities and it was reported by our mail filters . as i have blesta in it own server we have removed the limitation, but this will be problem for websites that use shared hosting or any smtp mail server provider .